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Mac Pro Ordered
My desktop has been working on failing for a bit. It's been crashing in at least three different ways while playing World of Warcraft. The graphics card has also managed to fry a molex connector. I'm aggravated by Windows, as well, and absolutely love OS X on my iBook.

As nugget would say, "Clearly, there's only one rational solution."

I bought a Mac.
Mac Pro Order Form

The new Mac Pros were released today. Each has two Woodcrest processors, the new fancy Xeons. We've had a few of these in the lab, and though I haven't been the one working with them, those who have have been very exited (one went wandering around the building quoting his benchmark numbers to anyone who didn't run away fast enough). There's no doubt that these will be very nice machines, and though they're not cheap, they're certainly not expensive for the hardware.

The thing that's bugging me about the purchase is that 30" Cinema Display. I don't need it. With that machine, I really should get a new display of some variety (my old, 1280x1024 LCD really won't do that machine justice), but do I really need a $2,000 display? Is it worth $2,000 to me? Nugget assures me that the display is absolutely wonderful to have, and that he feels the display is a better value (for years used) than the system itself. I still feel ridiculous spending that much on a display, but I can afford it, it's fitting with the system, and given my experiences with OS X on the iBook, I suspect I will appreciate every pixel of space I can get. Maybe the blow to my pocketbook will lessen once the items actually get here... In a month or so. The graphics card delayed shipping by "three to five weeks."

This is only going to make me hate my Windows laptop at work all the more.


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nugget From: nugget Date: August 8th, 2006 03:00 am (UTC) (Link)


Now I need a faster Mac :)
esuperlife From: esuperlife Date: August 11th, 2006 02:42 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Hooray!

Didn't you order one? Or talk about ordering one? lol
nugget From: nugget Date: August 11th, 2006 02:45 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Hooray!

I thought about it but I really don't need one quite yet. My PowerMac is too fast. :) All bets are off when equi's finally arrives, though, and I get a chance to play with it.

I guess it was easier than I expected to avoid the instant gratification factor when ship times are 3-5 weeks out.
esuperlife From: esuperlife Date: August 11th, 2006 02:51 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Hooray!

That long really? I saw someone from cali on a forum (mosr maybe) who got theirs the next day. Guess it wasn't BTO..
equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: August 11th, 2006 02:53 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Hooray!

It's the graphics card. The ATIs delay shipment by 3-5 weeks. In the default config, it's 1-3 business days. :/

As long as it gets here before my desktop dies...
esuperlife From: esuperlife Date: August 11th, 2006 03:45 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Hooray!

Make sure you don't accidentally move it, it might suddenly collapse. :P
chrisj04 From: chrisj04 Date: August 8th, 2006 03:24 am (UTC) (Link)
Yay mac.

One of these days I'll cough up some money and get myself one :-)
xulong From: xulong Date: August 8th, 2006 03:41 am (UTC) (Link)
christ. that's a lot of money.
decibel45 From: decibel45 Date: August 8th, 2006 05:11 am (UTC) (Link)
Shit, I was going to get a dual G5 before the Intel versions came out, since presumably they'd be substantially cheaper. Oh well, now I can't get one for several months (no way in hell will I buy a first-generation mac).
equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: August 8th, 2006 01:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
On new Macs, that doesn't work. Prices are static. The Mac will cost what the Macs cost, the fact that a new one is coming out does not affect price.

That said, you could probably find a "refurbished" PowerMac G5 though Apple for cheaper. There's a link on the main page, and they not only tend to be a bit cheaper, you tend to be able to find at least one generation back up there. The selection varies from day to day and they are not customizable, so if you're serious about wanting one, check back regularly to find the one you want. It will also probably sell quickly, so be on the ball. :)
decibel45 From: decibel45 Date: August 9th, 2006 01:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hmm... I could get a quad G5 for $2800, and a 30" Cinima for $1700...

I wonder if I can get an employee discount on top of that... :)

Ultimately it'd be smarter to just wait for Rev B of the Intel-based ones so I could use parallels.
esuperlife From: esuperlife Date: August 11th, 2006 02:37 am (UTC) (Link)
Desktops are a lot better than laptops, historically. With that said, I've brought my MacBook Pr in for repair 4 times since I got it in March.
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equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: August 8th, 2006 01:57 pm (UTC) (Link)

Have you seen Nugget's display comparison page? I don't remember the current url, but http://slacker.com/cinema.php should redirect you to it. ;)
ghewgill From: ghewgill Date: August 8th, 2006 06:35 am (UTC) (Link)
In about 1980, my dad said that the newest best computer would always cost $5000. That prediction certainly seems to be withstanding the test of time.

equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: August 8th, 2006 03:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
I just spec'd a "reasonable maximum" Mac Pro config for $6,657.00 (includes applecare and 30" display, assumes RAM will be purchased elsewhere, and thus doesn't include the price of that RAM).

The "Give me EVERYTHING!" config is $18,481.00 (unless I've missed something).
ooshiny From: ooshiny Date: August 8th, 2006 06:58 am (UTC) (Link)
*jaw drops*

30" monitor? Hell, I don't have a 30" TV. Enjoy it!

(oh, by the way, this is ooshiny. I renamed my journal a couple months ago and through some fault of my own, I managed to take myself off of everyone's friends lists.)
equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: August 8th, 2006 01:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
Gotcha re-added.

Some people use these things as TVs. They're great for watching hi-def stuff. :D
paradox0220 From: paradox0220 Date: August 8th, 2006 03:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
That is going to be a very sweet machine. I hate to see Woodcrests in it but they are the best thing on the market right now. I've been pondering an upgrade myself lately. I swear I will get at least 8 GB RAM this time so I don't have swapping that drives me nuts grrrr. Although I should probably wait for Vista approved systems just in case.

PS: My new car comes in on the weekend of the 19th according to Lexus! Yay! Only about 1/2 a year of waiting...

equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: August 8th, 2006 03:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
The Woodcrests are kick ass processors. I'd love to yell at Apple about their Intel only decision (something I would have complained to Dell about, if I thought any Dells were worth the trouble), but I cannot complain about putting the Woodcrest processors in this. Mmmm... *drool*

Believe it or not, 1.5GB RAM holds me solid on the iBook. The only time I start to reach the max is when Safari's been running for too long (bad memory leaks), I'm running NeoOffice (OO for Aqua), and I start World of Warcarft. I figure I'll grab a pair of 512s to put me to 2GB, and if I need more, I can get up to 4GB with just 512 sticks, or I could start throwing in 1GB sticks after that, and total 6GB. Or I could go with two 1GB DIMMs added now, and max it at 7GB. By the time I need more than that, I figure this RAM will be cheap enough for me to not worry about throwing away the 512 sticks. But, sheesh, fully buffered ECC DDR2? That's a lot of things to check for.
esuperlife From: esuperlife Date: August 11th, 2006 02:39 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm waiting for the quad core woodcrests. New car eh? What are you getting, a GS 350, IS 350?
paradox0220 From: paradox0220 Date: August 11th, 2006 03:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm trying to figure out why any home user would want quad core in all honesty (you aren't the only one to say that). :) It is wonderful for servers (especially server consolidation + virutalization) and maybe some rare power users. In the future once the software gets more multithreaded 4+ cores may be increasingly useful.

IS350, good guess!

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equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: August 12th, 2006 01:03 am (UTC) (Link)
I want to see WoW and a 30" display... And Civ IV. Apparently, Civ IV on the 30" is pushing Nugget's machine. There's a little (well, maybe not so little) part of me that wants to see it run so beautifully on my machine...

Part of me wishes we had ordered matching machines. Part of me will be glad mine is faster, for once. ;)
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