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New Computer
*sits and watches "system" compile*

So, my computer died. It was built in August of 2001, and survived a few warm summers without air conditioning. It was a pretty loud system, and nugget was looking for a way to make it quieter. He purchased a quiet case, with a quiet power supply. Somehow, in the process of transffering everything to the new case, my system died. It was an Athlon Thunderbird, 1.2GHz, 512M RAM. It's sitting on a book, on the door of the old case, not far from the dissected case, with a few parts laying around it. It won't POST anymore, at all. It never beeps. So, last night, Nugget and I headed over to Fry's, for a spur-of-the-moment computer purchase. Most of the computer was still fine, it was just the motherboard, processor, and RAM that needed replacing (mostly because my current hardware isn't compatible with what's being sold now). So, I ended up with a Gigabyte GA-7N400 Pro2 motherboard, an Athlon 3200 with 400MHz front side bus, and two paired 512M sticks of 3200 RAM. The board has everything from Gig Ethernet to sound on-board, so the only card I still need is the video card. Somehow, the nVidia card managed to mostly die in this process as well, so I'm back to the Radeon 7200 that doesn't always play nicely with this monitor.

I have Windows XP Pro installed, after some fights with the RAID controller and dying nVidia card. I'm currently working on installing Gentoo. I was planning on simply untaring my old system on the new drive, but with the change in hardware, I'll need to recompile everything. So, now, the processor gets to work. Even though I'm not actually using RAID, I appear to need the drivers to get everything to work. I'm hoping they're in the normal default kernel... The motherboard did come with a Linux kernel with the drivers, but... *shrug* We'll see what happens.

I'm still sad, though... my first computer has died.

Current Mood: excited excited
Current Music: Sunrise giving POST errors

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equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: July 3rd, 2004 05:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
I do have a Sonata case. It's beautiful. The only problem is I keep feeling obligated to polish off fingerprints!
decibel45 From: decibel45 Date: July 7th, 2004 08:37 am (UTC) (Link)
Either y'all are unlucky or I'm really lucky. Only failures I've ever had have been drive failures. Flake's been around for like 6 years now and one of the CPU fans doesn't even work. Let's hear it for the engineering on PIIs. :)

Oh yeah, I guess I did have to replace the power supply when it's fan died...
chrisj04 From: chrisj04 Date: July 8th, 2004 06:29 am (UTC) (Link)
don't say that too loudly, it might here you... :)
eliset From: eliset Date: July 3rd, 2004 05:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, I know the feeling. My first computer (well, the first one that was mine was my laptop, which died recently. I still have all the parts of it, and I don't know if I'll actually be able to throw it away. It's hard not to anthropomorphize something you use daily for years.

By the way - how's your laptop doing?
equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: July 3rd, 2004 08:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
The laptop is continuing to limp along running Knoppix. :) Which, coincidentally (or not) is what I'm running to install Gentoo...

My first computer taught me most of what I know about Linux. It taught me a large percentage of what I know about Windows. It was my computer... It was my Athlon that was supposed to last forever, through heat and dust and... and... it's died. That wasn't supposed to happen...

I'm saving my motherboard. It may be dead, but it's my first, and motherboards aren't very big. And I'm a pack rat. ;)
_fool From: _fool Date: July 4th, 2004 08:27 am (UTC) (Link)
could you give us more details on why you felt that you *had* to recompile everything? everything you built for the tbird should have been fine on the (presumably) XP3200...i hate hearing that someone had to reinstall linux when they got new hardware and try to help people avoid that since it's one of the big wins of running !windows.
equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: July 4th, 2004 09:13 am (UTC) (Link)
Well, I wasn't sure that the athlon-tbird extensions would work. Even if they would, I'd want to recompile everything for athlon-xp anyway. It will need a very, very different kernel - the only hardware in the case that's the same as for my last kernel is the CD roms. So I'd still have to boot off something else and mess with the system. I'd rather just do a clean install than confuse myself by rearranging drives that much.
_fool From: _fool Date: July 5th, 2004 12:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
to recompile your kernel, you would not need to boot off something else and mess with the system.
as i understand it, you can re-emerge system (with different options for gcc/USE) on a running system.
and now, knowing that ahtlon-tbird is a subset of xp (which means as far as i can tell that it will work), would you still choose to reinstall? i have no problem with you reinstalling, you understand, just with the promotion of the reality in which it was *necessary* =)
equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: July 5th, 2004 02:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
to recompile your kernel, you would not need to boot off something else and mess with the system.
You misunderstand. The kernel I was running would not have booted on the new hardware. It did not have support for the IDE controller. It did not have support for the network card, or the sound card, or anything else that had changed. I was running a kernel specific to exactly the old hardware. I would have to boot a generic kernel (which I did not have on that drive) to compile a new kernel for the hardware.

as i understand it, you can re-emerge system (with different options for gcc/USE) on a running system.
Yes. I've done that a few times.

knowing that ahtlon-tbird is a subset of xp
The tbird isn't a subset of the XP processors, it's a predecessor. It very well may use calls that are common to the two, but my tbird processor won't run in my XP board, and my XP processor won't run in my tbird board. I assumed the calls would be similarly incompatible, and since I'm changing my system drive, I didn't think it was worth the effort to find out.

For my definition of need, I needed to recompile everything. Given that I did not have a kernel that would boot the new hardware installed, and that I wanted to repartition anyway, a reinstall seemed the wisest decision.
decibel45 From: decibel45 Date: July 7th, 2004 08:35 am (UTC) (Link)
decibel@flake.1[10:34]/:112>ll kernel*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  4343925 Jun 23 00:53 kernel*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  3106749 Oct 22  2002 kernel.FLAKE2*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  4264640 Mar  6 13:10 kernel.GENERIC*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  3301590 Feb 19 09:27 kernel.LASTVER*
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  3303143 Mar  6 13:11 kernel.old*

equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: July 4th, 2004 09:24 am (UTC) (Link)
Wait, since when did you have to reinstall Windows because you got new hardware? I've run one Windows install, on one hard drive, on three different hardware configurations, without hardware profiles, even. The only common part between the three configurations was the hard drive. Linux ran in the same environment fine, btw.
_fool From: _fool Date: July 5th, 2004 12:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
to clarify, i've never had to do this, but i never swap hardware out from under windows. i've heard at least 5 friends bitch about how getting a new motherboard (and usually nothing else--same drives/peripherals) led directly to a reinstall. i guess i was working off of anecdotal evidence there, but that's what i've always heard. i reinstall on principle every 6 months or so if i use my windows partition actively (haven't lately) so i'm hardly a bastion of unbiased notions here. i'm extremely surprised and happy that it worked for you, but that's not a frequent story in the circles i run in (tho perhaps now that you're part of my circle things are a-changin' =))
equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: July 5th, 2004 02:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
There were at least 20 other people, with less OS experience than me, in my same situation, running the same Windows install on sets of very different hardware. I don't know why the people you know have had so much trouble - perhaps they're using 98SE? We were all running various versions of 2k and XP, and it worked well for nearly all of us.
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