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I can hear my hard drive. And it's not a sign the hard drive is failing.
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From: stenz Date: September 15th, 2006 12:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
Is it because the rest of the machine is just that quiet?
equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: September 15th, 2006 01:24 pm (UTC) (Link)

This is the first machine I've had where noticing the drives when you hadn't been listening for them was due to the quiet machine rather than failing drives.
From: stenz Date: September 15th, 2006 01:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
I remember the first full on drive failure I heard and it was funny (sounding) until I realized my data was gone and not coming back. *SPROING*
Shortly after which I opened my first hard drive and used it as a decorative piece on my desk - shiny!

I'm hoping that I can hold out longer on getting one of these MacPros - the quiet factor is huge for me, and then the rest is obviously the real selling point.
I will probably grab one right at the end of the year regardless, since I can then tack that on to tax expenses - but hopefully by then, they have either dropped the prices on these when new ones come out, or I will just get a new one.

Most of the stuff I do these days for clients won't benefit from 8 processors that the next gen will have, and when those come out, the quad core (or dual dual core :)) ones will have higher clock rates...

But also considering getting one like... now. Or next month.
equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: September 15th, 2006 01:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
If Apple does what they did with the PowerMac G5 (or what I remember with the PowerMac G5), you won't be able to get a Woodcrest Mac Pro new once the Cloverton (quad core proc, 8 core Mac Pro) is out. There will just be the slow Cloverton, the medium Cloverton, and the fast Cloverton. They also won't drop the prices on these Mac Pros once the Clovertons are out, they'll just stop selling them new. You could probably get them at a discounted rate, refurbished, through Apple, which is a pretty good deal. The refurbished machines come with the same one year warranty and Applecare can be purchased for them, as well. However, unless the Woodcrest Mac Pros get a speed bump before the Cloverton Mac Pros are released, you probably won't be able to get them with a higher clock rate.

Why shouldn't you get one now? There's always a possibility of a speed bump, however, I don't see that as very likely. I think a switch to Clovertowns is the more likely action. There's not yet a final release of Parallels for the Mac Pro and Crossover Office for Mac is still in beta, so you're stuck with full on dual booting for Windows only apps. This should be rectified shortly, but if that's critical to you, it's a reason to wait. And there's still a risk of hardware bugs that haven't been found yet. Then again, that risk will always exist, and it seems like it should be a good deal lower now than it was a month ago.
From: stenz Date: September 15th, 2006 02:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
This is an excellent reply - thanks for this.

Reasons to switch now:
1) While 8 processors is awesome, the bulk of how I make money now doesn't really need it, so it would be more along the lines of "cool", but not "necessary". I have one project that could probably make use of it, and that is still at the very minimum a month away, and probably more - even then, it would still work just fine on 4 (!!) processors and I could always later get something bigger/better.

2) My PowerBook is getting ever closer to death with every button pressed - it requires a lot of banging, clicking, praying, swearing, and swinging around every time I need to do something on it - this is bad during deadline crunches

3) My current workhorse is a ThinkPad that won't let me add more RAM - I'm doing more work in Visual Studio that is a total pig for RAM, so I'm spending more time with the HD getting hit instead of RAM, which is going to shorten the life of the HD - I would really rather have a real workstation and use this laptop for backup/travel.

Reasons not to switch yet: (you actually listed them all exactly right)
1) Parallels is what I absolutely need. I'm not going to use (the admittedly awesome) Boot Camp to go back and forth - I want them both up at the same time so that I can then have my laptops in the closet and one workstation to do all that I need for daily stuff. I need it to work on the MacPro. That should be "soon".

2) Bugs. The MacPro has been out for a little bit now, but a lot of the time it has been "out" was eaten by shipping out to users, and then it will take some time for them to really bang on it - I really want to see if there are any show stoppers. I think the hardware issues on the MacPro are far less of a worry than on a notebook since a notebook requires shipping the whole thing off to be fixed - the MacPro could just require a part being swapped out and I can do that in many cases.

3) Money. My current solution works, I'm just nervous that my Powerbook will totally die. Even then, my wife has an iBook that I could try and get for short periods of time to use. If I am totally honest, I could probably work just fine for at least a year under the current setup and save the $3k. Although eventually I know I will get one of these, so it is a matter of money now, or money later - and as you say, Apple doesn't really drop the prices, that is a good point. And it is a business expense, so a tax write off (and airline miles I guess, if that matters).

So really, the main issue now is the Parallels. I check on their website about once every two weeks and try and do web searches to see how things are going there.

equiraptor From: equiraptor Date: September 15th, 2006 02:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
Depending on when Parallels is ready, getting a refurbished Mac Pro really may make sense (through the Apple store, the link is actually on http://store.apple.com). The prices can be significantly less. While some people do have problems with them, problems are rare and they do have that warranty. If nothing else, it's something to keep an eye on as you watch the progress of Parallels.
esuperlife From: esuperlife Date: September 17th, 2006 02:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
I wish the same could be said for my dual g5 box. You know, 9 fans and all. It's still quiet, but not 'that' quiet. When the fans rev up, fugget about it.. :)
gev From: gev Date: September 15th, 2006 04:41 pm (UTC) (Link)

big deal!

I could hear my first (64 MB!) hard drive.

...over pretty much anything else.
damn that thing was loud. :)
decibel45 From: decibel45 Date: September 15th, 2006 06:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
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